Thu. Sep 24th, 2020

60 thoughts on “Why Israel Has No ‘Right to Exist’

  1. So what? Every one of those Arab states were created by European countries with land they took from the Ottoman Empire. By the logic of this article they have no right to exist either. Further, as this land was never governed by any of the people who refer to themselves as Palestinians they have no rightful claim to it either.

  2. go to israel and look out of the window. and then you will see what bombshell resolution 181 was.
    you can start ad homs. but even this will not change the fate of the palestinensians. because in case of israel muslims are toothless tigers. and if there is a tiger with tooth one will simple buy him.

  3. I think her only priority is political power and she will say anything to get it and keep it

  4. The problem is that the majority of Palestinians were not alive when Israel was created and any of them that lived there were allowed to stay. One out of five Israeli citizens are Arabs

  5. nothing else u did with the american natives. are they realists now or are they still praying to the great mannitou that they will get back their homeland? or do they come up with dna analyses?

  6. Arabs been had countries in the middle east and North Africa way before Europe step into play

  7. You desperately need to enroll in logic classes. The people
    of Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria are indigenous to their land
    and they were not the Yiddish-speaking white Jews who claimed
    to be the Israelite and their DNA says they are 100% European.
    It looks to me you want to burden us with your Jews that you
    spent centuries hating.

  8. “Israel” does exist on whose land and with whose permission?
    Is there something different about the European Jews in
    Palestine from the French in Algeria? European Jewry who are
    100% European according to their own DNA arrived in Palestine
    masquerading as Israelite and were able to deceive the world.
    We the people of the region do not want these foreign people
    on our land just like the Algerians did not want the French.
    The European Jew is on Arab land using force and the force of
    the US govt. How do you think you can force us to accept a
    foreign people against our wishes?

  9. Thank you Lenna, and thank you for hosting these discussions. It’s important to hear the other side of the story. I have some other background on this which I’ll post separately if that is alright.

  10. There was nothing there to “re-draw” as you claim. And that’s why Israel was able to form itself in that region without form. Because there was no nationhood anywhere after centuries of servitude to the Ottoman Empire.

  11. The Jews in those Arab lands were treated harshly, so how much land do Arabs need? Its a simple question.
    I think the Kurds deserve their own country–Iraq’s a pretty big place. In America, the Natives at least have reservations; every group of people deserves security, and a place to live. Overthrow of a Soveriegn, Established Nation is not the way to accomplish this!
    Those Chinese and Japanese did not originate in Judea, Helen, and when you dig into the soil, you find Jewish Coins, not Palestinian coins!

  12. Maybe your Palestinian Arab claim is just as Shameless–maybe they’re just squatters from Egypt and Jordan–this would be pretty offensive to you wouldn’t it?
    I’ve got no problem with Arabs taking advantage of their Israeli Citizenship, but the Arab Jihadist Neighbors set them all back. The Arab needs to take a peek at the Druze Neighbors and see how they do things, because Non Jews can prosper in Israel!

  13. Why can’t the Ashkenazi just clear out of areas where he has
    no connection to, go back home to Poland and prosper there?
    Remember Poland was his homeland where he used to speak
    Yiddish while cooking gefiltah fish.

  14. Those hand picked photos imply that you determine what a persons ancestory is by how they look, Helen–Hitler thought of similiar numerics!
    That Arab girl that slapped the IDF trooper a couple months ago looked Irish–should she be deported to Ireland?

  15. This Hammond guy tried to make it appear as if the Ashkenazi did
    not come from Germany, Hungary, Ukraine, totally alien to our region.
    He did not mention what are these Europeans doing on our land? He
    tried to make it appear as if these are two people who had always lived
    on that land. He thinks if the Ashkenazi was to grant some kinds of rights
    to the Palestinians that the Palestinians would bow down to the Ashkenazi
    for his kindness. No, no, the moment the Palestinians have the weapons
    they need in their hands, then they will force the aliens to return home.

    Hammond needs to pay attention to this:

    Lieutenant Colonel Harold B. Hoskins
    March 5, 1945.

    I said that the Zionists had attacked me particularly for the statement
    in my 1943 report that a Zionist State in Palestine could be installed
    and maintained only by force. I asked the President (Roosevelt)
    if he agreed with this conclusion, which the Zionists continue to
    deny most aggressively, and he said he fully agreed with me.

    https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1945v08/d672

  16. I enjoyed reading that. Most of the people here have no idea that jews are not zionist. It’s almost impossible for a person to lie to themselves and still honestly be able to call themselves Jew.

    Jerusalem is the central problem. The idolatry for the location will end up nuclear.. The city of blood was identified in tanakh and the melting of the city, is a part of the vision. Unless something very miraculous, special, rational…. ends the pursuit, i suspect the prophecy will expose itself, eventually.

    let me know if you have any great ideas.

    ps… the holy of holies is not a place and jesus was not the cristos , either.
    .

  17. Zionism = 100% Judaism. Zionism comes from no other source
    than the bible. Please read letter from Ben Gurion to French
    General Charles De Gaulle of 1967 and he talked about the bible
    is what Zionism is based on.

    Please read Numbers 33:55 in the OT

    https://tinyurl.com/rhtvukk

  18. If a Jew believes in the OT, he is automatically a Zionist.
    Zionism comes from no other source but Judaism.

    Many years ago, I came upon the document listed below and I
    immediately knew that is was a gem. I continued to read into
    the night until I had finished reading it and have since that
    time read it multiple times. It is a stunning document.

    Zionist Coverup by Edwin M Wright.

    https://tinyurl.com/yx3cg9jz

  19. Please tell me when these “religious Jews” entered Palestine,
    where did they come from and when and what language were
    they speaking. How did they communicate with their
    “Arab neighbors”?

    In 1920, the British Government’s Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine stated that there were hardly 700,000 people living in Palestine. The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews.In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine

    Herbert Samuel,
    High Commissioner
    and Commander-in-Chief.
    30th July, 1921.

  20. Concerning the nuclear option – I am not so pessimistic but need to put my ideas together on that to answer.

    Concerning your PS – I think I understand where you are going with the Holy of Holies but you are going to have to develop your contention about Jesus because I am perplexed.

  21. Disagree most strongly on that.

    Anyone can pull paras out of the OT and justify whatever Political maneuvering they wish for there are some pretty horrifying passages which can only be understood holistically and within a Biblical Worldview.

    Ben Gurion was a terrorist with personal Blood on his hands – how is he, the practical instigator, a reference on Zionism.

    You need to go back to the Chaim Wiezmann take over from Herschel.

  22. it’s a nuclear age and the weapon is the only thing that melts cities but what scares me, is within that divide people are willing to self sacrifice.

    I have no contention with Jesus. Matt 16:20 is jesus charging his disciples not to call him jesus the christ and then luke 18:18-20 is jesus answering the question as to how to earn life eternal. Both expose jesus is honest about not the problem but that people afterwards, are what created the tangent.

  23. I am not an expert on a lot of things but on Herzl I am. I
    took time to study the man, I read his 1,600 pages Complete
    Diaries 3 times, read his “Jewish State” book, his speeches at
    the Zionist gatherings, his autobiography by Desmond Stewart
    is the best. The man was a liar and a schemer. Many of your
    statements are Zionist garbage and I will show you what I
    mean.

    You: although there has been a constant minority presence of
    Jews.

    Me: Please show proof.

    You: The Diaspora began in 586 BCE during the Babylonian
    occupation of Israel.

    Me: That is pure fiction or else the Ashkenazi who make up 95%
    of the Jews of the world would have a tiny bit of Middle
    Eastern genes and they do not.

    You: the Roman Empire expelled the Jews from Judea , changing
    the name to “Syria Palaestina”.

    Me: Which Jews were expelled? The Ashkenazi who is 100%
    European according to his own DNA? The Yemeni Jew who is of
    Yemeni ancestry or the Ethiopian Jew who is 100% Ethiopian or
    the Chinese Jew who is of Chinese origin?

    You: The ensuing exile from Judea greatly increased the
    percent of Jews who were dispersed throughout the Diaspora
    instead of living in their original home.

    Me: Nonsense. You are going to tell me Palestine is the
    original home of Bernie Sanders and according to his DNA
    published by PBS he is 97.7% Ashkkenazi?

    You: In the 17th century Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676) announced
    himself as the Messiah

    Me: Was he an Ashkenazi?

    You: and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means
    for Jews to be a majority nation in their own state.

    Me: Alan Dershowitz is 99.9% European, 0.1% East Asian and
    0.0% Middle Eastern. Can Dershowitz “return” to Palestine?

    You: to re-establish themselves in their ancient homeland.

    Me: How can the Ashkenazi “re-establish” in Palestine and he
    is 100% alien to Palestine?

    You: In recent decades they returned in their masses.

    Me: That would be like the Chinese Muslims “returning” to
    Mecca.

    You: Palestine, their historic homeland.

    Me: Historic homeland of the Ashkenazi like Bernie Sanders
    and Alan Dershowitz?

    You: The Jews possessed a nationality; all they were missing
    was a nation and a state of their own.

    Me: You mean the Chinese, Ugandan, Iranian, Ukrainian, Indian
    Jews are a nationality? And you do not think it is such a
    ridiculous notion?

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  24. Thanks for this and taking the time to analyse what I wrote.
    We both seek the Truth on this and so I really appreciate the dialectics as the historical record is filled with much propaganda and every piece of evidence needs to be considered in the context of the era it was written.
    I am not an expert either but rather a curious observer of current Geopolitics who is trying to understand the issues.- Just an ordinary Joe who knows the ME quite well .

    As I have said elsewhere I have ” no axe to grind” and was not partisan in coming to my present conclusions . Can you say the same?

    Now to your points:

    1. Fully aware that Ashkenazi are NOT semites and hail from Eastern Europe.

    2. I do not have proof ( it could be researched) currently that – “There have always been Jews in Palestine” but I am very sure this is the case. The Romans did not wipe them out completely in 70AD and there is written testimony that one of the Rabbis who escaped returned to Rome and with the Emperor’s blessing set up a School in the ME to write down the Talmud – period 200 – 600 AD.
    Thus to say that there is no minority presence of JEWS is certainly not “Garbage”.

    3. You equate all JEWS with Ashkenazi – this is silly. There are Sephardim and Mizrahi and indeed the JEW is an agglomeration of many ethnicities. You know this but choose to only talk as though they were all YIDS from what used to be called “The pale of the Settlement”.

    4. On the Nationality issue. You mention many countries and it is true Jews live in all those countries . They are and were Internationlists . However you cannot deny they deliberately preserved and jealously guarded their “JEWISHNESS” – through marriage within the tribe and living a segregated life – often in Ghettos.
    Thus if we think of Nationality as a demographic sharing a Worldview – Jews have always been a Nation without land.
    This is exactly why we have the DUAL NATIONALITY issue in America and exactly why their loyalty to Host Nations is always in question with the “Israel Firster” issue.

  25. Thanks for this and taking the time to analyse what I wrote.
    We both seek the Truth on this and so I really appreciate the dialectics as the historical record is filled with much propaganda and every piece of evidence needs to be considered in the context of the era it was written.
    I am not an expert either but rather a curious observer of current Geopolitics who is trying to understand the issues.- Just an ordinary Joe who knows the ME quite well .

    As I have said elsewhere I have ” no axe to grind” and was not partisan in coming to my present conclusions . Can you say the same?

    Now to your points:

    1. Fully aware that Ashkenazi are NOT semites and hail from Eastern Europe.

    2. I do not have proof ( it could be researched) currently that – “There have always been Jews in Palestine” but I am very sure this is the case. The Romans did not wipe them out completely in 70AD and there is written testimony that one of the Rabbis who escaped returned to Rome and with the Emperor’s blessing set up a School in the ME to write down the Talmud – period 200 – 600 AD.
    Thus to say that there is no minority presence of JEWS is certainly not “Garbage”.

    3. You equate all JEWS with Ashkenazi – this is silly. There are Sephardim and Mizrahi and indeed the JEW is an agglomeration of many ethnicities. You know this but choose to only talk as though they were all YIDS from what used to be called “The pale of the Settlement”.

    4. On the Nationality issue. You mention many countries and it is true Jews live in all those countries . They are and were Internationlists . However you cannot deny they deliberately preserved and jealously guarded their “JEWISHNESS” – through marriage within the tribe and living a segregated life – often in Ghettos.
    Thus if we think of Nationality as a demographic sharing a Worldview – Jews have always been a Nation without land.
    This is exactly why we have the DUAL NATIONALITY issue in America and exactly why their loyalty to Host Nations is always in question with the “Israel Firster” issue.

  26. I have never observed lenna, attack or be against any semitic languages. The trash think that to be against israel is anti semitic.

    What if you found out, that the Jews here in this country are against israel? Are they anti semitic in your language?

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    the honest soul, the Jew will be against what is now israel, about naturally!

    Why? Because No honest soul can deny what is true; the apartheid is rude and NOTHING that a Jew could support

  27. Evangelicals are bamboozled by the OT saying ” Those that bless Israel will be blessed ……”

    Recently on this article :http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/those-that-bless-israel-will-be-blessed-but-those-that-try-to-divide-the-land-of-israel-will-be-cursed
    We had the usual spin.

    I tried to correct by posting what follows……needless to say my post was taken down and it is now impossible to get back to the blog! ——–Censorship is alive and well.

    I would be interested in comments back on this – do you think I have exaggerated?

    The disagreement dates back to the formation of Israel, which Muslims and some Christians and some Jews consider a Luciferian manoeuvre and NOT part of God’s Plan which is the way it is commonly portrayed. Many Jews believe that Jews were destined only to return to Israel WHEN the Messiah comes.
    As always the story has Money and Zionism at its core – two concepts that have caused problems for ALL Jews down the centuries not just the Zionist trouble makers.
    Here are the FACTS:
    In 1947 The British who prior to World War 2 declared that there would be no more immigration of Jews to Palestine. This was principally to protect the Palestinians from Jewish acts of terror against both them and British soldiers.
    The Brits transfer control of Palestine to the United Nations.
    The United Nations resolve to have Palestine partitioned into two states, one Jewish and one Arab, with Jerusalem to remain as an international zone to be enjoyed by all religious faiths.
    This transfer is scheduled to take place on May 15th, 1948.
    However, just to put into perspective who controls the United Nations (UN), please be aware that the UN had no right to give Arab property to anyone, as indeed even though the Jews owned only 6% of Palestine at that time, resolution 181 granted the Jews 57% of the land leaving the Arabs who at that time had 94% with only 43%.Terror attacks against the British in Palestine continued.

    In fact during the summer, three Jewish terrorists, Jacob Weiss, Meir Nakar, and Avshalom Habib found guilty of an attack on Acre gaol on May 4th, were to be hanged.
    At the same time, the Irgun terrorist gang headed by future Prime Minister, Menachem Begin, were holding two British sergeants, Mervyn Paice and Clifford Martin, as hostages for the three Jewish terrorists. Indeed Begin stated:“We will hang the British sergeants at exactly the same time as our men die.”
    The executions of the Jewish terrorists took place, and the British sergeants were found executed also, hanging from two eucalyptus trees. Captain D. H. Gallatti of 23rd Field Squadron, Royal Engineers, cut down one of the bodies only to be seriously injured by an explosion.
    Unsatisfied with killing these British soldiers, the Jews had booby trapped their corpses.

    In his diary of July 21st, President Harry S. Truman makes the following entry,“The Jews have no sense of proportion, nor do they have any judgement on world affairs. The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as (post war) Displaced Persons as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power – physical, financial or political – neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog.”

    1948: In the spring of that year, the Rothschilds bribe President Harry S. Truman (33rd President of the United States 1945 – 1953) to recognise Israel as a sovereign state with $2,000,000 which they give to him on his campaign train.
    At midnight on May 14th, the State of Israel is officially, “proclaimed,” in Tel Aviv.
    Eleven minutes later President Truman declares the United States as the first foreign nation to recognise it.
    The Flag of Israel is unveiled.

    The emblem on the flag is a blue coloured version of the Rothschild “Red Hexagram.” It has a blue border at the top and the bottom which represents the Nile and Euphrates rivers. (proposed Greater Israel)This is put there to make the Jewish territorial ambitions very clear, an Israel in accordance with its biblical borders. -This would of course mean the inclusion into Israel of: Iraq; Syria; Jordan; Lebanon; and parts of Saudi Arabia.This use of the Rothschild Hexagram is disguised as it is referred to in the Rothschild media as a, “Star Of David.”

    However, it is clear to anyone with knowledge of esoteric symbolism that this Hexagram was used in the ancient mystery religions as the symbol of, “Molech,” (described as a demon of unwilling sacrifice and is also interestingly the name of the stone owl, the elite worship at Bohemian Grove), and, “Astaroth,” (described as the Lord Treasurer of Hell).
    Due to the fact it is made up of six lines, has six triangular sectors and six points, it is commonly regarded as a symbol of Satan.Interestingly, the Hexagram is also used to represent Saturn, which has been identified as the esoteric name for, “Satan.” Would this not indicate that anyone killed in the name of This Flag is actually a sacrifice to their God, Satan?
    Furthermore, the Jewish Sabbath is on Saturday, which was originally known as Saturn’s Day.
    So, to recap, the hexagram on the Israeli flag represents the number of the beast 666, it is an ancient representation of Satan, also known as Saturn, and the Jewish weekly religious day is Saturn’s Day.In the early hours of April 19th 132 Jewish Terrorists of the Irgun gang lead by Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, and the Stern gang, led by future Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, brutally massacre 200 men, women and children as they are sleeping peacefully in the Arab village of Deir Yassin.

    Following the United Nations transfer of Palestine to an independent Jewish state and an independent Arab state on May 15th, the Israelis launch another military assault on the Arabs (today known as Palestinians) with blaring loudspeakers on their trucks informing the Arabs that if they do not flee immediately, they will be slaughtered.
    800,000 Arabs with the recent memory of the Deir Yassin massacre at the forefront of their minds, flee in panic.
    They ask for help from neighbouring Arab states, but those states do not get involved as they are no match for the Israelis whose up to date military hardware had been supplied by the Jewish Stalinist regime in Russia.

    Following this series of Jewish genocidal war crimes, the Jews now control 78% of the former Palestine as oppose to the 57% that had already been given to them illegally by the Jewish controlled United Nations.
    The Arabs, many of them Christians, would never be paid compensation for their homes, property and businesses stolen from them during this genocide, and as a result these people end up in slum refugee cities of tents. Furthermore at least half of the Arabs, in a desperate hurry to flee with their lives, leave their birth certificates behind. The State of Israel then pass a law that only those Arabs who are able to prove their citizenship are allowed to return to their land, now known as Israel, which meant these 400,000 Arabs could not return and lost all the property they had left.

    On 17th September Former President of the Swedish Red Cross, Count Folke Bernadotte, who had secured the release of 21,000 prisoners during World War 2, over half of which were Jews, and was acting as a Middle East Mediator on behalf of the United Nations, is assassinated by the Jewish terrorist Stern gang, under the orders of future Prime Minister of Israel, Yitzhak Shamir.
    Apparently they were worried he may try to use their United Nations platform to demand the return of some of the land the Jews stole from the Arabs earlier.

    CONCLUSIONS
    The rest of the story is History as they say. Israel was born in “blood” funded by Rothschild money. Churchill was blackmailed to support the Rothschild establishment of Israel.Since that very difficult and painful birth the whole picture has been complicated by successive wars and the American support generated by the KAZI ( Khazar Ashkenazi Zionist Illuminati) Neocons for a well funded supposedly, secular democracy in the heart of the Middle East .
    The Palestinian problem remains unresolved with a genocided people being kept in an “open prison” worse by far than Guantanamo Bay known as The West Bank. An enclave with no status continually boycotted and bullied where generations of Palestinians are brought up to hate Israel and take every opportunity to blow both themselves and Jews out of existence.

  28. Zionism was created by Theodor Herzel and others at the end of the 19th Century, and in that era it was commonplace to be colonialist, to be racist, to be super-nationalist, to adore the nation-state, so the idea of France for the French, Germany for the Germans, and then some state for the Zionists.
    This all formed the basis for Khazar Illuminati Ashkenazi Zionism. ( KAZI )

    KAZI and Judaism are contrary to each other. Because Judaism is universal and humane, and KAZI is exactly the opposite. It is very narrow, very nationalistic, racist, colonialist.
    There is no “National Judaism.” There is Zionism and there is Judaism, and they are completely different.

    KAZI has nothing to do with Judaism. Because Judaism – a Reform Movement- that is highly, highly ethical. And so, you cannot connect KAZI with “highly ethical.”
    You can only connect the words “aggressive,” “oppressive,” “stealing,” “robbing” with Zionism. But not “highly ethical.”
    The KAZI (non-Jewish Illuminati) hijacked our governments, currencies, big business, institutions, education, media and minds; got all of us in debt, then collapsed our economy.
    Greedy and ideological KAZIs contributed to the growth of the Third Reich via the so-called “Transfer Agreement” – a business arrangement to transfer German Jews to Palestine. In return, German exports would be bought through KAZI entities to ensure the economic growth and wealth of Palestine.
    Most significant is the success of the 18th Zionist Congress to go against the international boycott movement by suppressing the Revisionists and strong-arming them into abandoning their ideology. If the boycott had prevailed, Germany may not even have existed today and the Holocaust would have never happened.

    The facts are clear that KAZIs made Hitler’s 3rd Reich possible and ultimately spawned the Zio-Fascist and terrorist State that Israel has now become.
    Israeli KAZI leaders continue to indulge in the persecution of Jews by falsely claiming that KAZI is a goal of Judaism. It’s time to make a clear distinction between Judaism and KAZI, also known as Zio-Fascism.

    “Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves.”

    Menaheim Begin, 6th Prime Minister of Israel.

    Does this narrative sound familiar to you? Think Nazi.
    The Jewish people has been unique by its identity as a religious entity. Through the centuries its religious character had been a premise agreed upon by Jews and non-Jews alike. Jewish religious and traditional history bears no aspect of racism. Hence, one of non-Jewish origin is capable of being proselytized and attaining the same status as a born Jew. Conversely, one of Jewish birth who does not recognize his being bound to the Jewish Torah, is by Jewish law a heretic, and therefore forfeits his spiritual birthrights as a Jew.
    Through the many years that Jews resided in the Holy Land enjoyed tranquil and cordial relations with the non-Jewish population there.
    The KAZI movement which was formed at the latter part of the last century, sought to endow the Jews with a nationalistic character which was heretofore strange to them. It sought to deprive them of their historically religious character and offered a nationalistic ideology and the possibility of establishing through political media, a Jewish national homeland.
    During the period of the British Mandate, the Balfour Declaration, which recognized the eventual possibility of founding a Jewish national homeland, in Palestine, was affirmed to be the British government. The Jewish Agency, who then was the Chief representative of KAZI interests in the Holy Land, was entrusted with the issuance of visas to the Holy Land, thus resulting in an increased KAZI immigration from various parts of the world, which ultimately succeeded in superseding in numbers, the veteran Orthodox dwellers.
    Orthodox Jewry all over the world and the Orthodox Community in the Holy Land in particular, immediately sensed in this stage of KAZI success, the threat of grave danger for the religious future of Jews. The Arab inhabitants began to exhibit open hostility to their Jewish neighbors. The British government failed to distinguish between the Orthodox community, who for generations in habited the Holy Land, and the newly arrived KAZI immigrants.
    With the acquisition by the KAZI nationalists of the power to organize communities in Palestine, they formed the Vaad Haleumi Leknesset Yisroel (National Jewish Council Committee). This committee ignored the rights of the Orthodox veteran dwellers who did not recognize this validity of Jewish nationality, and whose identification as Jews was solely with their loyalty to their religious heritage. The religious inhabitants, on the other hand, shuddered at the prospects of spiritual disintegration of World Jewry, with the new rise to power of the KAZI nationalists.
    The Orthodox inhabitants actively objected to being subject to the authority of the secularists. They appealed their cause to the League of Nations, who consequently granted them a “Right of exclusion” to the subjugation to the Vaad Haleumi, which rights provided that any Jew wishing not to be incorporated into the Vaad Haleumi, may remain lawfully independent if he so stated his wish in writing.
    Thousands of Jews did so. Such was the case until November 1948, when the United Nations finally sanctioned the establishment of a KAZI State.
    KAZIs’ success in finally realizing their goal was due in great measure to their having misled the world into viewing the KAZI cause as the Jewish cause.
    The formation of the KAZI state resulted in the automatic deprivation of the autonomy heretofore possessed by the Orthodox inhabitants of the Holy Land.
    The origins of the UN can be found in the financing of the same KAZI banking families, the Rothschilds, Schiffs, Warbugs, Lazards, and Oppenheimers, who have financed strife on this earth for centuries.
    The UN was created to justify the existence of the KAZI entity as a legitimate nation-state, to put a shroud on its hideous supremacist character; this rings true with the fact that the Security Council never even ratified the resolution which proposed the legitimacy of a Jewish ‘state’ in Palestine.
    Despite this, and despite the illegal KAZI colonization of Palestine financed by the KAZI Rothschild family since the 1880s and the horrible KAZI atrocities of the Nakba in 1948, still the UN recognized this fabricated regime, still gave it a name and a seat. Why?
    Because its godfathers, the KAZI bankers, wanted it that way.
    The UN is a tool of KAZI power.
    The same UN that introduced Resolution 661 to Iraq, the treacherous ‘sanctions resolution,’ which crippled Iraq, prepared it for the Zionist invasion of 2003 and murdered over 2 million people by starvation including 800,000 Iraqi children.
    The same UN that paved the way for the mutilation of Libya, in which at least 100,000 have been mass murdered by NATO and its Israeli-advised rebel thugs.
    The same UN that now seeks to turn Syria into another Iraq or Libya 2.0.
    The KAZIs grasped in the acquisition of their new powers, the opportunity to openly disassociate themselves from any identification with Jews as a religion.
    They systematically began to orient the minds of their generations according to the tenets of KAZI nationalism.
    Through the Ministry of Religions they employed part of the Rabbinate to assist them in their aims.
    The religious Jews who by virtue of their faith, clearly contradicted Zionist nationalism, and who had lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors for generations, became unwillingly identified with the KAZI cause and their struggle with the Arabs. They requested the United Nations that Jerusalem be designated as a defacto international city. They appealed to the diplomatic corps assigned to Jerusalem – but to no avail.
    They were hence confronted with the choice of either becoming a part of the KAZI State, which diametrically opposed the interests of Jews as a religion, or abandoning the land of which their forefathers were the first Jewish settlers.
    Judaism in its correct form is not a religion of hate any more than are Christianity, Islam or Buddhism.

    KAZIs however, is a secular, geopolitical system of hate…it is NOT a religion. It is a power cult (hiding behind the Jewish faith) of death, greed, lying, avarice and self-aggrandizement which views with contempt and derision all who do not subscribe or submit to its dogma.

  29. How much land do Arabs need? And were there other peoples who also inhabited the Middle East?
    There are more than just Ashkenazi Jews in Israel; you have Mizrachi, Sephardi, Ethiopian, and Yemeni. Do these people not have a right to safety and security in a Jewish homeland that has existed for over 70 years?
    Maybe, using the logic presented here, America should buggar up, and be given back to the Native Americans; but wait, the Europeans that established America weren’t going back to their original homeland!
    Might does not make Right, but why can’t the Arab live peacefully with their Jewish neighbors–they won’t will they, and by doing so they’re using the same Might makes Right mentality that they accuse Israeli Jews of using!
    Some people simply won’t reason and are only content with destruction–what a shame!

  30. I dare anyone to find me a single Jew who has any
    objections to the theft of Palestine. You will not find any.
    The most these deceivers will say is they object to the
    treatment of “Israel” of the Palestinians. Judaism and
    Zionism are one and the same.

    Ben Gurion: “The Bible is our Mandate”
    I say on behalf of the Jews that the Bible
    is our Mandate, the Bible which was written
    by us, in our own language, in Hebrew, in
    this very country. That is our Mandate. Our
    right is as old as the Jewish people. It was
    only the recognition of this right which was
    expressed in the Balfour Declaration and the
    Mandate. It is stated in the Mandate that it
    recognizes the right of the Jewish people to
    reconstitute their National Home.

    Ben Gurion testimony to Peel Commission – 1937

  31. Do you know what “halukah” is? Jews throughout the world
    used to contribute money for charity for the Jews but when
    Zionism began, they began to ship Europe’s indigent, homeless
    and elderly Jews to Palestine who did not need any convincing
    to go to Palestine to just eat, pray and sleep. The Zionists
    only needed a Jewish body count. Your “religious Jews” were
    probably these poor Jews who were thrown on Palestine to start the
    Jewish body count. Only the Palestinians could have given
    permission for any Jew to enter Palestine and how these
    indigent Jews entered Palestine was probably using some illegal
    ways. Just because one calls himself a Jew does not mean he is
    granted automatic right to enter Arab Palestine.

  32. Present day Zionism derives from a complicated route of the usual KAZI usurpation and dissemblance designed to hide and cover intention. Some notes on this:

    Since the first centuries CE, most Jews have lived outside the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel, better known as Palestine), although there has been a constant minority presence of Jews.
    According to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, Eretz Israel was a land CONDITIONALLY promised to the Jews by God according to the Hebrew and Greek Bibles and the Quran, respectively.

    The Diaspora began in 586 BCE during the Babylonian occupation of Israel. The Babylonians destroyed the First Temple, which was central to Jewish culture at the time. After the 1st century Great Revolt and the 2nd century Bar Kokhba revolt , the Roman Empire expelled the Jews from Judea , changing the name to “Syria Palaestina”.
    The Bar Kokhba revolt caused a spike in anti-Semitism and Jewish persecution. The ensuing exile from Judea greatly increased the percent of Jews who were dispersed throughout the Diaspora instead of living in their original home.

    In the 17th century Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676) announced himself as the Messiah and gained many Jews to his side, forming a base in Salonika. He first tried to establish a settlement in Gaza, but moved later to Smyrna. After deposing the old rabbi Aaron Lapapa in the spring of 1666, the Jewish community of Avignon France, prepared to emigrate to the new Kngdom.
    The readiness of the Jews of the time to believe the messianic claims of Sabbatai Zevi may be largely explained by the desperate state of Central European Jewry in the mid-17th century. The bloody pogroms of Bohdan Khmelnytsky had wiped out one-third of the Jewish population and destroyed many centres of Jewish learning and communal life. ( please note there were good reasons for these pogroms )

    Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in central and eastern Europe as a national revival movement, in reaction to anti-Semitic and exclusionary nationalist movements in Europe.

    Soon after this most leaders of the movement associated the main goal with creating the desired state in Palestine, then an area controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
    NB:A religious variety of Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity defined as adherence to religious Judaism, opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies, and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be a majority nation in their own state.

    There are varieties of Zionism, one called cultural Zionism was founded and represented most prominently by Ahad Ha’am, fostered a secular vision of a Jewish “spiritual centre” in Israel, but Political Zionism was established with the political goal of creating a Jewish state in order to create a nation where Jews could be the majority, rather than the minority they were in a variety of nations in the diaspora. This morphed into the Greater Israel projec.

    Theodor Herzl, is considered the ideological father of Zionism, considered Anti-Semitism as an eternal feature of all societies in which Jews lived as minorities, and that only a separation could allow Jews to escape eternal prosecution.

    “Let them give us sovereignty over a piece of of the Earth’s surface, just sufficient for the needs of our people, then we will do the rest!” he proclaimed exposing his plan.”

    Major aspects of the Zionist idea are represented in the Israeli Declaration of Independence :

    1.The Land of Israel was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood, created cultural values of national and universal significance and gave to the world the eternal Book of Books.

    2.After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people kept faith with it throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom.

    3.Impelled by this historic and traditional attachment, Jews strove in every successive generation to re-establish themselves in their ancient homeland. In recent decades they returned in their masses.

    Herzl came to reject his early ideas regarding Jewish emancipation and assimilation and to believe that the Jews must remove themselves from Europe and create their own state. Beginning in late 1895, Herzl wrote “Der Judenstaat” (The State of the Jews), which was published February 1896 to immediate acclaim and controversy.
    The book argued that the Jewish people should leave Europe if they wished to, either for Argentina or, preferably, for Palestine, their historic homeland. The Jews possessed a nationality; all they were missing was a nation and a state of their own.

    In “Der Judenstaat” he writes:

    “The Jewish question persists wherever Jews live in appreciable numbers. Wherever it does not exist, it is brought in together with Jewish immigrants. We are naturally drawn into those places where we are not persecuted, and our appearance there gives rise to persecution. This is the case, and will inevitably be so, everywhere, even in highly civilised countries—see, for instance, France—so long as the Jewish question is not solved on the political level.”

    Only through a Jewish state could they avoid anti-Semitism, express their culture freely and practice their religion without hindrance.

    Herzl’s ideas spread throughout the Jewish world and attracted international attention. Supporters of existing Zionist movements, such as the Hovevei Zion, immediately allied themselves with him, but establishment Jewry vilified him and considered his ideas as a threat to their attempts at integration and a rebellion against God.
    The book concludes:

    Therefore I believe that a wondrous generation of Jews will spring into existence. The Maccabeans will rise again. Let me repeat once more my opening words:
    The Jews who wish for a State will have it.We shall live at last as free men on our own soil, and die peacefully in our own homes.The world will be freed by our liberty, enriched by our wealth, magnified by our greatness. And whatever we attempt there to accomplish for our own welfare, will react powerfully and beneficially for the good of humanity”

    Herzl publicly met Wilhelm II in 1898. The meeting significantly advanced Herzl’s and Zionism’s legitimacy in Jewish and world opinion but was still not conclusive. His ideas really took off after his untimely death ( some say he was murdered) when Chaim Wiezmann took up the Zionist cause and put the New York KAZI money behind it. It was after this that the original objectives of Zionism began to morph away from the cultural and religious framework and into a Geopolitical power play.

    Unlike Herzl, Ahad Ha’am strived for Israel to be “a Jewish state and not merely a state of Jews”.

    Enter: Asher Zvi Hirsch Ginsberg (Ahad Ha’am)
    In his early thirties, Ginsberg returned to Odessa where he was influenced by Leon Pinsker, a leader of the Hovevei Zion (Lovers of Zion) movement whose goal was settlement of Jews in Palestine. Unlike Pinsker, Ginsberg did not believe in political Zionism, which he fought, ‘with a vehemence and austerity which embittered that whole period’. Instead he hailed the spiritual value of the Hebrew renaissance to counter the debilitating fragmentation (hitpardut) in the diaspora, he believed that the ingathering of Jews in Palestine was not an answer. Kibbutz galuyot was a messianic ideal rather than a feasible contemporary project. The real answer lay in achieving a spiritual centre, or ‘central domicile’, within Palestine, that of Eretz Israel, which would form an exemplary model for the dispersed world of Jewry in exile to imitate; a spiritual focus for the circumferential world of the Jewish diaspora.
    He split from the Zionist movement after the First Zionist Congress, because he felt that Theodor Herzl’s program was impractical.
    From 1889 to 1906, Ginzberg flourished as a preeminent intellectual in Zionist politics.

    It should also be noted that throughout the 1930s when MOST European countries were asking Jews to leave their countries, not just Germany, there was a progressive exodus eastward through Germany where camps were built to house the mass migration on their way.

    Both Hitler and the World Zionist organisation shared the same objective of populating Palestine with returning Jews. The agreement between Hitler and the Zionist movement was known as the Ha’avara Agreement. In other words most European countries wanted the Jews out and the reason for this is another long discussion!

    More worrying is the discussion topic promoted by the Rothschild dynasty in the World Zionist Conference in the early 1900s that discuss Zionism becoming a World Dominant Ideology.

  33. by the same logic you dont want to hand over your key to an american native.
    i recommend to create a reservate for the palestinensians where they can do some show dances for tourists and sort of a thanksgiving day.

  34. Nothing you are saying makes sense.

    1) No matter the size of the total land inhabited by the
    people of the Middle East, it is their land. Go ask the US to
    give you land the size of Palestine and tell me how they
    respond.

    2) You are saying the Jews from Arab countries have a right to
    Palestine because they lived in Arab countries? By your
    logic, Kenya has a right to invade Uganda.

    3) The Palestinians are not looking at ancient history but at
    Algeria occupied for 130 years by the French, Tunisia for 75
    years and Morocco for 44 years and finally they gained their
    independence. Palestine is the only Arab territory still under
    foreign occupation.

    4) You are asking why the Palestinians could not live
    peacefully with the foreign Jews? Why didn’t the European
    Jews live in peace with their own kind, other Europeans?
    Please remember that the European Jew is as alien to
    Palestine as the Chinese or Japanese.

  35. The Jews in those Arab lands were treated harshly, so how much land do Arabs need? Its a simple question.
    I think the Kurds deserve their own country–Iraq’s a pretty big place. In America, the Natives at least have reservations; every group of people deserves security, and a place to live. Overthrow of a Soveriegn, Established Nation is not the way to accomplish this!
    Those Chinese and Japanese did not originate in Judea, Helen, and when you dig into the soil, you find Jewish Coins, not Palestinian coins!

  36. ‘So what. Every one of those Arab states were created by European countries with land they took from the Ottoman Empire.’

    When Europeans redrew those Arab states they didn’t displace millions of locals is ‘what’.

    The establishment of Israel did.

    But (((you))) knew that.

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