Fri. Jul 10th, 2020

21 thoughts on “You Can’t Own Property in America

  1. yesterday in our news. “the powerfullst state in the usa is a corn field.” (iowa)^^

  2. The federal and state governments collects taxes to operate on. Neither collect enough taxes. That is why we have deficits every year and mounting debt. Yes the government has eminent domain over all property. But when one purchases land, it belongs to them. It’s in no way a lease. Tax laws on everything vary from state to state. I live in Delaware. We don’t have a sale’s tax. And our income tax rate is low. Why? Because we collect taxes on all the corporations that are chartered here. Until the uneducated public learns all the services it expect from the government. They will always think they are over taxed. Name one service you would like to repeal?

  3. Don’t conflate property taxes with our voting system “first past the post”. They are distinct issues.

    The presence of property taxes does mean that we never really own the property… that the state really does. There are historic reasons for that… why do you think ownership is called a “Deed”, as in “Grant Deed”…. because in the English system which we inherited, the King owned the land and granted its use to those loyal to him who did tasks for him.. i.e., deeds for the King. It has remained as a vestige in our system.

    Economically, is property tax a good way to raise money? Maybe. There are pros and cons, and there are many other taxes. Property tax existed before income tax.

    What is clear is that non-property owners should not be able to vote to raise property taxes.

  4. Don’t conflate property taxes with our voting system “first past the post”. They are distinct issues.

    The presence of property taxes does mean that we never really own the property… that the state really does. There are historic reasons for that… why do you think ownership is called a “Deed”, as in “Grant Deed”…. because in the English system which we inherited, the King owned the land and granted its use to those loyal to him who did tasks for him.. i.e., deeds for the King. It has remained as a vestige in our system.

    Economically, is property tax a good way to raise money? Maybe. There are pros and cons, and there are many other taxes. Property tax existed before income tax.

    What is clear is that non-property owners should not be able to vote to raise property taxes.

  5. i am sure, when your gov will take your property away, ie for a street, it will pay you the value of the property. so it dont own it. it has just the right to buy (first).

  6. We have deficits because the government spends too much.

    The land does belong to the state… stop paying property taxes and see who really owns it.

    Healthcare. Government has no business in healthcare.

  7. Yes overspending is a problem. So what are you going to do about it? There are always contractors willing to over charge. And there is always fraud involved in entitlement programs.
    Yhe government over spends on virtually everything. But there are often deficits written into the budget. Accumulated deficits create debt. Most advanced countries have the same problem. Debt management is a big business. Borrowing money from China and others is big business. It won’t end.
    As to property, One holds a deed to property to prove ownership. There are other obligations that come from ownership. Property taxes are levied by law. They are voted on and become an obligation to the owners. You can voice your opinion on property taxes by voting for legislators who agree with you. This is a democracy and you have a vote. Any creditor can have a lien placed on your property for a credit default. Does that mean they already own your property? Of course not. But if there is a judgment issued against the property for a debt, then the property can be taken to satisfy the debt, whether you like it or not. So, its not only the government that can take your property to settle a debt, its any creditor. So just pay your taxes and live another day. Taxes are a legal debt.

  8. Well said, but we are arguing over semantics. The government and property taxes existed long before the income tax came into being. The government will not yield on that.

  9. Property taxes are local. Each government levys for them. The federal tax came around in the early 40yj vrmyuty. You want the best country in the world, then appreciate that it cost a lot of money to have it. Our taxes are fair in my opinion

  10. We don’t have deficits because governments don’t collect enough tax. We have deficit because governments overspend recklessly even when they’ve received surplus taxes instead of placing a surplus taxes in reserve they spend them. Property taxes clearly unconstitutional tax as it takes away the right of personal property and instead give us the privilege to lease from the government. Or like California they recklessly and criminally capitulate to public sector unions handing out benefits and raise’s like it was fucking Halloween. Besides which public sector unions are an instant conflict of interest they should be banned and all agreements made with them retroactively annulled.

  11. There we go!
    If we don’t pay our tax property they government will take our property and kick us to the curb!!

  12. Lenna for president of USA!!
    Lenna, run and I will help you to win, as long as you kick baby-temper tantrum- Donald Trump on the gonads.

  13. I see, I was not aware of that. Could you please send the link? I would ;love to learn about that

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